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French Drain Ideas and Information

French Drain Installation —   French Drains are designed to do a lot of things.  If you have an area that has unwanted water standing in it or running across it, a French Drain can be the answer.  A French Drain is a trench that runs across the Drainage Problem Area.  A French Drain Pipe is placed in the bottom of the trench.  The French Drain Pipe is perforated with thousands of small holes.  In most cases the Drain Pipe has a nylon soc around the pipe to act as a filter for the French Drain.  The French Drain trench is then filled with some type of small rock or stone.  CMG typically uses crushed 1 inch Lime Stone to cover the French Drain Pipe.  The dirt that was dug out of the trench is taken away or spread out around the French Drain.  The Lime Stone replaces the dirt and fills the French Drain Trench all the way to the surface.

 

Large 6 Inch French Drain Installed in Norman

Large 6 Inch French Drain Installed in Norman

When water come in contact with the French Drain, it seeps down through the stones and into the French Drain Pipe.  It then flows through the Drain Pipe to the exit point.  Typically a French Drain will have two possible exit points.   The First is called a “Pop-Up Emitter.”  It is a Green Lid on top of a release basin for the French Drain.

The second type of Exit Point for a French Drain is a “Curb Fitting.”  The Curb Fitting is installed through the curb going out into the street.  The French Drain Pipe runs to the Curb.  The curb is cut out and the Curb Fitting is cemented through the Curb.

French Drains are designed to move large amounts of water.  A French Drain moves water away from the Drainage Problem area from the Surface like a large Surface Drain, But also below ground, or sub surface.  Most people don’t take into account the water that flows to a problem area underground.  Sub surface water flow is not eliminated by a Surface Drain.  A French Drain can move away water that is below the surface of the ground and drain away water that is on the surface.

We just finished a 4 inch Drainage System in Yukon.  It was a complicated system to install.  It utilized 4 inch French Drain in the flower beds,  12 inch Surface Drains on the side of the house,  6 inch French Drain along the garage foundation with 2 Pop – Up Emitters in the back yard and 3 Curb Fittings in the front.    First we installed 4 inch French Drain in the flowerbeds on both sides of the front door.  We connected 4 inch solid Drain Pipe into the French Drain and ran them underside walk to the curb.  Next we cut the curb with a concrete saw and installed 3 curb outlets for 3 separate French Drains.

Next we installed 4 12 Inch Drain Basins with grates along both sides of the house continuing with Solid Drain Pipe to the Pop-Up Emitters on the back fence. Finally we completed the Drainage System by installing a long run of 6 inch French Drain down the side of the garage foundation.   Installing the French Drains in the flower beds was the most difficult and took the most time.  Each French Drain took over a ton of crushed limestone to fill the French Drain trench.  The Six inch French Drain took even more limestone.

French Drain in Oklahoma City

Angie’s List rates us A+ and now has awarded CMG Sprinklers and Drains for our exceptional customer service in french drains, surface drains, sprinkler installations and repair!  Our french drains and sprinkler systems come with a TWO YEAR WARRANTY on all parts and labor.  In business now for over 20 years, CMG is a local company that takes great pride in delivering the best in customer service and quality work you can trust.  CMG services what we install and we are always a phone call away for all your drainage and irrigation needs 405-226-0629.  We service all of Central Oklahoma including Edmond, Oklahoma City, Moore, Norman, Midwest City, Del City, Purcell, Blanchard, Newcastle, Mustang, Yukon

Drainage System Installation in Norman
Drainage System Installation
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Sprinkler Repair Information, French Drain Installation

Sprinkler Repair —  Sprinkler InstallationAgnie’s List Award winner

Sprinkler Repair for all types and brands of Residential Sprinkler Systems

Lawn Sprinkler Repair is one of our areas of expertise.  We can help with:

1.  Sprinkler Controller Problems

2.  Leaking Back-Flow Valves

3.  Leaking  Sprinkler Pipes

4.  Shorted or disconnected valve wires

5.  Sprinkler Zones or Sprinkler Stations that won’t work

6.  Broken Sprinkler Heads

 

CMG Sprinklers and Drains can help if you need to re-design your sprinkler systemIf for example you are adding a swimming pool in your back yard, we can move the sprinkler heads and sprinkler pipes to fit the new dimensions of your yard.  We can redesign or add-on to sprinkler systems where the home owners needs change.

CMG Sprinklers and Drains started 2015 with a Sprinkler System installation in South Oklahoma City.  The home owner had well water for the Sprinkler System.  The Well-Pump was a 1 and a half horse Well-Pump.  This size Pump is very good for Sprinkler Systems.  It is not too big and not too small.  CMG can install Sprinkler Systems with Pumps as small as 3/4 horse.   We also install Sprinkler Systems connected to any standard residential water meter up to two inch.

Sprinkler Valve installation in Edmond

Sprinkler Valve installation in Edmond 

When connecting to the Well-Pump, we installed a Back-Flow Valve and a Master Valve.  The Back-Flow valve ensures that water can only flow from the Well to the Sprinkler System.  It can’t flow from the Sprinkler System to the well.  This ensures that the Well Water will stay safe and pure.

Back-Flow Valve installation in Norman

Back-Flow Valve installation in Norman 

Next, we installed a Master Valve.   A Master Valve is always a “Must” for any Sprinkler System.  A Master Valve allows a Sprinkler System to:  1.  Drain Automatically Under Ground.  2.  Makes sure there are no pressurized Sprinkler Pipes EXCEPT WHEN THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS RUNNING.  3.  Provides a “Fail-Safe” for the customer if something goes wrong with the Sprinkler System.  If you have water shooting up in the air or have a leak of any kind all you do is turn the Sprinkler Controller to, “OFF”, and it will stop.  If it was installed by CMG, then you call us.  A Master Valve ensures that you will not have water running down the hill while you are waiting for service.  Also, THE WATER GOING TO YOUR HOUSE WILL NOT BE AFFECTED IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM.  EVERYTHING INSIDE YOUR HOME WILL WORK PERFECTLY.  ( WASHER, DISHWASHER SINK, etc.)

Surface Drain installed in Oklahoma City

Surface Drain installed in Oklahoma City 

CMG also installs Drainage Systems, and provides expert Sprinkler Repair.  If you live in Edmond and need a French Drain, Or if you live in Norman and are having trouble with your Sprinkler System Controller, or if you live in Yukon and need a Surface Drain, Give CMG a Call.

405-226-0629                        cmgsprinklers@hotmail.com   or cmgsprinklers@gmail.com

French Drain, Surface Drain, Drainage System Information

Drainage Systems, French Drains, Surface Drains, Channel Drains, Sump Pumps, Sprinkler Systems, Sprinkler Repair, with 21 years of experience. 

CMG Sprinklers and Drains Recently installed a Drainage System in Nichols Hills.  The Drainage System was made up of a 4 inch French Drain starting in the back yard.  It ran between the garage and the pool.  Several gutters were connected directly into the French Drain.  From this point, we expanded up to a larger 6 inch Drain pipe to handle the added water into the system from the gutters.  In several places the French Drain had to run through areas where Sprinkler Pipes were in the way.  We had to re-rout all the Sprinkler Pipes and Wires under the French Drain.

Once the Sprinkler System had been redesigned and the gutters had been connected, CMG ran the 6 inch Drain Pipe from the end of the French Drain, around the house to release through the curb.  We cut the curb and installed a 6 inch curb fitting with acrylic concrete.  A few days later a major thunderstorm poured down on the property.  The French Drain and the Drainage System Worked Perfectly.

A Channel Drain is a type of Surface Drain and many times is installed in concrete across sidewalks or driveways.  It is long and narrow with a grate on top.

A French Drain is completely different from a Surface Drain.  A basic French Drain consists of a Perforated Drain Pipe in the bottom of a trench.  A  Trench Liner is sometimes used depending on the Drainage System Design and the type of soil.   The Drain Pipe should have a neoprene sock around the Perforated Drain Pipe.   This is to ensure that the Drain Pipe does not become clogged. A trench is dug that is slightly wider than the French Drain Pipe that is being used.  There are several sizes of French Drain Pipe.   Three Inch, Four Inch, and Six Inch are the most common sizes of French drain Pipe. The dirt that is taken out to make the trench is hauled away.  It is replaced by some type of small stone or gravel depending on what is desired or available.  I prefer crushed 1 inch lime stone.  It is the most economical option in my area.  Pea Gravel or some other type of small stone can work just as well.    The lime-stone or gravel is placed in the trench on top of the perforated Drain Pipe and filled all the way to the surface (ground level).   In some cases where the French Drain needs to be deep or is being placed in sandy soil, a special trench liner must be placed in the trench before the perforated Drain Pipe or the Gravel are installed.  This helps maintain the integrity of the trench over time.  It also increases the cost of the French Drain and the amount of time to install it.  I install a trench liner in a French Drain about 20% of the time.  Most of the time a liner in not needed.

A French Drain is designed to handle a large volume of water and cover a large area. The Drain is anyplace the trench goes. It has many applications and can be used in many situations.  It can be installed by itself or incorporated into a Drainage System with Surface Drains or Gutter Down-Spouts connected to it.
The main downfall of a French Drain is that they, for the most part aren’t very pretty.  They don’t look very nice in a yard once they are completed.
Depending on the area the French Drain is installed and the type of grass around the French Drain, will dictate whether grass grows over the lime stone.  Grass can grow up and through the gravel in the French Drain over time eventually covering the gravel.  This is OK.  It won’t have a measurable effect on the performance of the drain.
DONT COVER THE GRAVEL IN THE FRENCH DRAIN WITH DIRT.  THE FRENCH DRAIN WON’T WORK IF THE TRENCH IS CLOGGED WITH DIRT.  DON’T EVEN INSTALL IT IF YOU ARE GOING TO COVER IT UP WITH DIRT.
DECORATIVE STONE CAN BE USED TO COVER A FRENCH DRAIN AND THEY LOOK GREAT AND LAST A LIFETIME.
CMG also installs new Lawn Sprinkler Systems and Repairs Sprinkler Systems.  If you have a broken sprinkler head in Edmond or a leaking Sprinkler valve in Norman, give CMG a call.  We service all types of Sprinkler Systems.

Lawn Irrigation Systems installed by CMG are fully automatic.  Sprinkler System Controller in the garage or outside on an exterior wall.  The Sprinkler Controller need only be installed be plugged into a 110 electrical outlet.

Drain Pipe for French Drain running under sidewalk

Drain Pipe for French Drain running under sidewalk

Our Sprinkler Systems are Self-Draining.   The Sprinkler Pipes Drain underground when the Irrigation System is turned off.   Nothing needs to be done to prepare your Irrigation System for winter except turn it off.  There is no water left in the Sprinkler Pipes to Freeze.

CMG Sprinklers and Drains — Servicing Central Oklahoma including:  Oklahoma City, Moore, EdmondNorman, Midwest CityDel City, Mustang, Yukon, BlanchardNewcastle, and Purcell.

Sprinkler System Installation in Oklahoma can be complicated.   There are many details that very important to ensure that a new Sprinkler System be durable and dependable for many years to come.  Attention to detail makes all the difference when installing a Sprinkler System.  Many times, So-Called, ” Fly By Night Sprinkler Companies,”  cut lots of corners to save money.  Low price should not be the determining factor for having a Sprinkler System installed.  A cheap Sprinkler System soon becomes very expensive if it has to be fixed all the time or won’t work at all.

Two things you should require on any Sprinkler System:

1.  Make shure PRIMER  is used along with PVC Glue when the Sprinkler Pipe is put together.  Primer helps the glue to bond to the PVC pipe.  This ensures that all the pressurized pipe connections won’t leak over time.  I have seen Sprinkler Systems that were no more than a year old that leaked everywhere.

2.  Make shure the connection for the Sprinkler System at the water meter is done with a, “compression T.”  This ensures that no leaks will occur over time at this connection.  The Sprinkler Connection at the water meter is highly stressed every time the Sprinkler System is turned on.  A connection with Glue and Primer will not hold up to the stress over time.  This is why a Compression T must be used.

The above two points are just a few of the details that need to be considered when installing a Lawn Sprinkler System.

For twenty years, CMG has been paying close attention to the important details necessary to ensuring the Installation of Sprinkler Systems that are dependable and will last.

My name is Blane Callen. I have owned and operated CMG Sprinklers and Drains since 1993.  I take great pride in my work.  The Letters “CMG” stand for the first letter of the first name of each of my children.  ( Chance, Melissa, Garrett )  = CMG

I have amassed a great deal of experience designing and installing Sprinkler SystemsRepairing Sprinkler Systems, and designing and installing Drainage SystemsIn the past 19 years, I have made mistakes, but I have learned from them.  As a result I get calls, from time to time,  from other Sprinkler and Drainage companies that have run into a problem that they can’t handle.  I am always glad to help.

I usually don’t take money up front for Sprinkler Installation, Sprinkler Repair, or  French Drain Installation.  I prefer that the customer pay me when the job.  In a few cases on very large jobs I request a draw or outlay for parts.  The parts are delivered from my supplier to the address where the job is being done and equal the amount of the draw.  The parts stay on the premises until they are installed.

 

Where to put a French Drain?

A French Drain is a long perforated pipe in the bottom of a trench.  The trench runs through the problem drainage area.  The trench is filled with gravel or crushed lime stone.  The French Drain takes in water any place that water runs into the trench.

A French Drain will move large amounts of water from the Drainage Problem Area to the Exit point.

A French Drain will Drain away water that gets to the Drainage Problem Area in 3 ways.

1.  Water gets to the problem area by falling from the sky.

2.  Water gets to the problem area by flowing down hill over the ground.

3.  Water gets to the problem area by flowing underground. (Sub-Surface water flow)

French Drain Running Through Low Areas in Yukon

French Drain Running Through Low Areas in Yukon

Number 3,  Sub-Surface water flow is the big consideration.  When doing a Drainage Diagnostic, this is the area that is many times missed or not considered by less experienced companies.  CMG relies on 21 years of experience.  Many Times it is cheaper and more effective to install a French Drain over a Surface Drain.  A Surface Drain can’t move as much water as a French Drain, and a Surface Drain can’t Drain away Sub-Surface waterSurface Drains should be installed in areas where the Drainage Problem area is smaller and is not affected by sub-surface water.

The draw back to a French Drain, is that it is not a pretty as a Surface Drain.

French Drains do a great job running along foundations and driveways.  A French Drain will keep water away from cement and prevent damage to concrete if water should freeze up against it.  A French Drain can keep your foundation Dry.

CMG Services Oklahoma City, Moore, Norman, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, Midwest City, and all surrounding Central Oklahoma.

We just finished a 4 inch Drainage System in Yukon.  It was a complicated system to install.  It utilized 4 inch French Drain in the flower beds,  12 inch Surface Drains on the side of the house,  6 inch French Drain along the garage foundation with 2 Pop – Up Emitters in the back yard and 3 Curb Fittings in the front.    First we installed 4 inch French Drain in the flowerbeds on both sides of the front door.  We connected 4 inch solid Drain Pipe into the French Drain and ran them underside walk to the curb.  Next we cut the curb with a concrete saw and installed 3 curb outlets for 3 separate French Drains.

Next we installed 4 12 Inch Drain Basins with grates along both sides of the house continuing with Solid Drain Pipe to the Pop-Up Emitters on the back fence. Finally we completed the Drainage System by installing a long run of 6 inch French Drain down the side of the garage foundation.   Installing the French Drains in the flower beds was the most difficult and took the most time.  Each French Drain took over a ton of crushed limestone to fill the French Drain trench.  The Six inch French Drain took even more limestone.

French Drains can utilize  several types and sizes of French Drain Pipe.  An older type that is not commonly used any more is 4 inch PVC Pipe with large half inch holes drilled in the Pipe.  This doesn’t work very well,   Because the holes are too large and the number of holes in the French Drain Pipe are too few.  Also there is no filter or “Soc” around this particular French Drain Pipe.  If it is used in sandy or loose soil the holes will clog and the pipe will fill up with sand.  PVC French Drain Pipe should be avoided.

Installing a Drain Pipe For a French Drain that Releases water through a Pop-Up Emitter at the Street

Installing a Drain Pipe For a French Drain that Releases water through a Pop-Up Emitter at the Street

ADS French Drain Pipe is much better, the holes are smaller and much more numerous.  It also comes inside a soc that acts as a filter and helps keep sand and debris out of the French Drain Pipe.  It works very well.

For Small business and Residential French Drains, Four inch ADS Perf/Soc French Drain pipe is adequate and the most common.  It is used for the majority of all French Drains installed.  French Drains can be installed using 3 inch ADS Perf/Soc but many times it is too small and can be overwhelmed by a heavy rain or from a bad design.  (Too many gutter down spouts connected directly into the French Drain, For Example)  Three Inch French Drain Pipe should be avoided if possible.

Connecting Gutter into French Drain System in Moore

Connecting Gutter into French Drain System in Moore

Six inch  ADS Perf/Soc French Drain Pipe is usually a good idea when possible.  It carries a much larger volume of water.  Six Inch French Drains are rarely overwhelmed.

The Drawbacks to 6 inch French Drain installation are:  1.  The Materials Cost is higher for six-inch French Drain Compared to Four Inch Pipe.
                                                                                                                    2.  Many times 6 Inch French Drain Pipe is too large for many applications, Such as going under a fence or sidewalk.  
                                                                                                                   3.  The trench for a 6 inch French Drain must be much larger than a 4 Inch
                                                                                                                   4.  The amount of gravel or limestone or River Rock used to Cover the 6 inch French Drain is Much larger
 
All things being considered, the performance and longevity of a 6 inch French Drain is well worth it if you are trying to protect something of value to you!  If the higher cost and the additional labor and materials are not a problem and 6 inch French Drain pipe is not too big for what you want to do then a 6 inch French Drain would be the best.